but i am right...he needs to quit

No one should get fired, at first when I came back to Legions and I was disappointing..because I lost my sniping skills somehow and some of my best friends left IA...but after 2 weeks of adjusting my sniping skills came back and my accuracy increased. Yay! I'm better now at Legions.

Well, its not like they will never ' add' new stuff such as items and cloaks.

If you look in the keybindings you'll see bindings for 5 items.4 of which haven't been made,thought, or released yet. The first one is in use by flag.

I mean its pretty obvious, 'there' will be more items and weopons. We just don't know when, no one does.

Read between the lines and notice that it means, "The new Legions is worse then the old one."

Well duh, but at least they could actually take a hit before the nerf.

Before, you use to be able to 1-hit with the sniper against outriders and raiders, but it was hard to do that before. Now if you shoot someone point blank, it only does 1/3 of that. And by that time, you most likely lost the element of surprise... Even if you were the best sniper in the universe at this game, it would still take a few seconds to kill. Now it takes almost no skill to dodge. Maybe you're right and I haven't fought a good sniper yet, I have nothing to compare it to, but I still stand by my statement.

Again, read between the lines and notice that I am saying, "If we had suits from Legions, I doubt there would be damage from going too fast."

Now you're just being pathetic... I am stating (no tears) that I am annoyed that you need to pay close to 1000 points to get the same skin for each class.

When did I ever say real-life cash?

I am not stupid, I know that Legions is the next step from Tribes. I am just stating that if they are going to put Tribes on IA, they might as well make a difference between them. And technically, GG bought Tribes from Vivendi Universal, so they weren't the ones who developed it. Only a small handful of people from GG were from the team that made Tribes. You really shouldn't judge someone's character if you don't know them. Don't flame me, because I am merely ranting.

I said it is worse, not that it sucks, I said that clear in second post.
Never have, never will... I just like a challenge, and it's just too easy for me to beat snipers.
Your right, they don't improve your skills, I got a navy suit for outrider, but when I'm defending as a sent, I am stuck with the same boring suit. I think that if you buy one version of a skin, you should get all versions. Let's say you buy the red raider skin, it should unlock the red sentinel and red outrider skins too.
You're kidding me... Did you really just go against your previous statement? I am suggesting something other then IA points or cash. Customizable classes or something similar would work.

Read between the lines and notice that it means, "The new Legions is worse then the old one.

That's not really a legitimate response to what I said. You obviously still don't like it, so you can stop playing if all you can do is cry about it and not provide us with real feedback.

Well duh, but at least they could actually take a hit before the nerf.

Duh? I don't know what legions you play, but Outriders can still absorb a direct hit from a grenade or rocket launcher, but the splash of a second shot will kill you. You shouldn't really even be engaging in direct combat in Outrider if it's that much of a problem for you. Instead of complaining how weak it's armor is, use a class that was intended for direct combat. Hard concept to understand, I know.

Before, you use to be able to 1-hit with the sniper against outriders and raiders, but it was hard to do that before. Now if you shoot someone point blank, it only does 1/3 of that. And by that time, you most likely lost the element of surprise... Even if you were the best sniper in the universe at this game, it would still take a few seconds to kill. Now it takes almost no skill to dodge. Maybe you're right and I haven't fought a good sniper yet, I have nothing to compare it to, but I still stand by my statement.

I'm sorry but I just can't take your argument seriously. With the old sniper, you immediately lost the element of surprise because you had a giant blue beam stretching across the map that pretty much gives away your position away to anyone within 1000 meters. I don't know about you, but to me that seems to defeat the point of sniping for long periods of time, because you need to move alot or engage in duels often.

Again, read between the lines and notice that I am saying, "If we had suits from Legions, I doubt there would be damage from going too fast.


Going too fast isn't what causes fall damage. Falling or running into objects does. I assumed that was self explanatory. You can fly straight up into the air off of a tower or any base object, drop straight down and take fall damage. GI Joe suits and Legions suits are the same thing. GI Joe suits aren't going 150 mp/s into walls and hills. When they hit something in the movie it either absorbed the shock or moved/broke under their weight (cars, etc). They weren't running into sand dunes, giant grassy hills or 10 foot thick pillars.

Now you're just being pathetic... I am stating (no tears) that I am annoyed that you need to pay close to 1000 points to get the same skin for each class.

Pathetic, right. See #1, emphasis on the word whining in the example listed below the definition.


When did I ever say real-life cash?

...? Are you implying that they should implement some sort of in-game currency? This isn't an MMORPG buddy, we don't need it.

I am not stupid, I know that Legions is the next step from Tribes. I am just stating that if they are going to put Tribes on IA, they might as well make a difference between them. And technically, GG bought Tribes from Vivendi Universal, so they weren't the ones who developed it. Only a small handful of people from GG were from the team that made Tribes. You really shouldn't judge someone's character if you don't know them. Don't flame me, because I am merely ranting.

"Read between the lines" and notice that I said people and not everyone. People does not mean everyone. You basically just what repeated what I said. [Only a small handful of people from GG were from the team that made Tribes]. There is a distinct difference between Tribes and Legions. If you think this is getting flamed, you're in for a rude awakening.

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When you can make a legitimately serious, non-accusatorial, intelligent post, I'll respond in kind. Don't come onto the Legions forums with your presumptuous attitude, blatantly insulting the developers and the game and expect not to get treated like an *fluffy bunny*.

is it really so hard to use quote tags?

I just got a few to say:

If you don't like the new updates, why rant about it? There are much more people to be heard and other people just like you who don't like it.

I personally didn't like most of the updates, however I still enjoy the game, why can't you. As long as it stays fun with a huge community, then who cares? IA will be willing to take suggestions/ideas for upcoming updates.

No feedback? Your kidding me, this whole post was about what I don't like, feedback is providing specifics. And again, your trying to flame me personally with this, can you just respond like an adult?

Here you go again, trying to imply that I am stupid. I had full health multiple times and every once in a while, a MA would instantly kill me.

Well you could hide it by pointing the laser behind the person or away while it charged, and dueling with the new sniper? It drains your energy, and it hits less while you try to use it with low energy.

GI Joe was just a reference point, and I am stating that there shouldn't be a need for cratering damage, it does nothing but damage people who can't ski, or the unlucky run out of energy with no safe point.

Here you go again trying to judge me. For the rest of these conversations can you act like an adult?

No, not an in-game currency... It's like... Ehh, forget it, too many threads already suggested this...

Usually when people say 'People', they are stating everyone, especially if they don't add 'a few', or 'some' before the word. This is what it comes to:

A few people from Tribes founded GG. A few people from GG run IA, and a few people from IA created Legions. That thinned out quite a bit, and I would be fairly surprised if more then about 3 people who made Legions were part of the Tribes team.

Then don't respond to me, you will be happy for not responding, and I'll be happy for using this time talking to other people about my feedback.

I thought everyone used them, but I know what you mean. It gets hard when people don't really use the quotes.

Me too, I still play Legions, I don't like the new updates, but I still play it. I am just trying to put out my feedback.

I love people who QQ.

Isn't that from wikipedia? I got this from the dictionary:

What I'm trying to say is that your posts don't look very much like critical feedback to me. The overall tone of ones post changes the moment you read the first line.

And the first line I've read was 'The new Legions sucks!'.

Mind you, I know what some kind of people are when I read their first 'serious' post. I rely heavily on first impressions and, generally, your first impression to me was that you are, for a lack of a better, more eloquent word, a whiner.

The way you responded to TheRizzle's posts are borderlining stupidity. Seriously:


Considering that you need to lead your reticle around a centimeter or two ahead of your target, and seeing the fact that a centimeter or two in a distance is around 5-10 meters, do you think they WON'T see it?


The new Laser Rifle, take note of the name LASER RIFLE, was designed as a SUPPORT weapon, not a OMGWTFBBQ-1HK weapon. If you duel with only the LR, I don't know what else to say, only that you're very idiotic to believe that you can duel with the LR alone.



And to add this, Sniping does not instantly mean that you have a weapon that can instantly kill people from a distance, it only means the action of firing at a target in long distances.


One more thing to add, if you're going to compare a movie's physics with Legions, please try to defend that opinion you posted.


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I should probably just leave this link here explaining why Munge and the Legions Devs added FD:
http://legionsblog.instantaction.com/2009/07/collision-damage-in-legions.html

Please read the second post I made.

It's feedback, not whining, and if you judge people on first impressions you will never get to know who they really are. I remember many times in-game when people act friendly at first, but then right when you kill them they go "WTF HAXOR!!!".

You hide it behind until it is charged, then you bring it out and shoot.

Yes, but the old one allowed you to duel with it. Many people adjusted to being able to use it to duel, and now they can't.

In most cases, sniping is for killing instantly if you were good at it. I think that if you have enough skill to shoot someone that far away, you should get a kill.


That is a basic point, I am just stating that if we had suits that strong, I think we would be able to fall more then a hundred feet. I just pointed out the movie as a base for it, I haven't even seen the movie.

I'm just too lazy to quote all of your *chocolate cow pie* posts which consist mainly of calling me immature and to post like an adult, or that I'm flaming you. It's obviously not just me that sees you aren't providing legitimate feedback, but are whining and/or ranting. The only person your convincing with your "BUT IT'S JUST FEEDBACK" argument is yourself. You're unreceptive to feedback on your own feedback and deny that other people have a point, which is hypocritical when you expect us to sit back and listen to everything you have to say. I'm not going to bother with this timesink you call feedback, have fun discussing Legions' problems with yourself.